New Deism Resource
Hello all,
I’d like to share with you a new informational website dedicated to Deism. Deism4Me is another resource to explore the philosophy, history, beliefs, and modern relevance of Deism. Visit www.deism4me.com
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One God
It has been a while since i have posted anything. I’ve had
Some issues that’s kept me side lined.
That said, I have come to the conclusion that the ancient phiosphpers namely Plato And Aristotle got it right.
Aristotle concluded their was only one creator who he name
The Prime Mover. He concluded that the Prime Moveer alwasy existed because science demands it. Namely, for anything to become their must be a cause, there fore as their was no other cause the Prime Mover had alwasy existed.
He concluded their was Prime Mover could create anything but nothing could ever move the Prime mover.
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Enlightenment
I have been a Deist for over 30 years but "back doored" into this faith as most of us have.
It is quite confusing as I have been reaching out often to this creator, Bob Johnson, and read his book. I want to engage in a platform so we can grow our membership. I understand our foundation is based on individuality but the only way to connect with the 40% of our population who are in our base. It is quite confusing as I come across Christians, Atheists, Agnostics who after our discussions are clearly Deists.
I want to tell them more but it is a glimmer. Is there anyone out there upset that "christian nationalism" tells us our founding fathers were christian. WE have no voice Help!
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Altruism?
I am baffled by the notes on altruism, especially the assertion that revealed religions are anti-altruism. This is counter to most popular criticism. How did anyone arrive at that conclusion?
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Allen Johnson
Feb 02
I understand that I am tardy to the conversation and these questions may not spcifically apply. Even so, I would be interested in hearing more about this distinction between a religious-revelatory formed altruism and a naturally or instinctually formed altruism. Perhaps I could get a link for additional reading, as I am interested in hearing this parsed out. Thank you. (1) Is desiring or seeking or knowing you'll ultimately receive a reward for your charity, good deeds, or prayers for others truly altruism?
(2) Living on a farm, I see "self"-sacrificial behavior in animals; regularly mother's put their offspring's needs above their own for a continued survival (health & safety); males intentionally endanger themselves against very frightening wild attackers, willing to sacrifice their lives for the herd. Granted, I also see the brutal reality of survival-competition as well in these creatures, along with plenty of selfishness and seeming unconcern. Yet...
[A] Could we say that these animals have the attribute of altruism by instinct based on their "self"-sacrifices?
[B] And could we ask: Are these creatures seeking a reward beyond survival? Or would these creatures have to be told about an additional reward system (beyond a simple survival payout) before they would even consider a secondary reward system beyond natural order?
[C] And perhaps: If altruism can be seen in creatures of the natural order, (demonstrating its actuality among us), couldn't creatures of a higher order of consciousness - unto advanced spatial awareness and reasoning capabilities, along with the ability for abstract reasoning - be capable of the same such altruistic actions without additional religiously oriented revelations?
These are just questions I have in trying to gain a better understanding. I'm kind of new to this. Any suggestions for further exploration?
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Christian’s both in and out of govenrment attempt to force their beliefs on others. They want to disallow abortion which is just plain wrong. A womens body is her own and only a woman can bake the decision on whether or not she wish she’s to take the fetus to birth. Yet the government though the Supreme Court can prevent abortions. This needs to change.