Altruism?
I am baffled by the notes on altruism, especially the assertion that revealed religions are anti-altruism. This is counter to most popular criticism. How did anyone arrive at that conclusion?
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My logic for Deism
I believe that everything in this world comes from a creator. However I don’t think the creator involved itself in the world to make things like religion, intervention etc.
I was born and raised in Iran under a strict islamic family and environment, and over time I realized how religion is used by people and governments to tell lies and make up their own rules and values that only benefit them. Real Islam hasn’t even been practiced for hundreds of years if you ask me. This is why I think Deism is logical for me.
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Kam Farnaam
2025년 9월 03일
Hi Fatemeh, I was also raised in Iran, but perhaps decades before you were. I regret being raised in an Islamic society. Islam is not a religion. Islam is a satanic cult. It is all about hatred and manipulation. I am so glad you figured out what Islam and these other revealed religions are all about. I am thrilled that I broke through the brainwashing of Islam and reached the conclusion that Deism is indeed the only logical answer.
Is Deism a religion?
Is Deism a religion?
Of course Deism is a religion!
Webster defines ‘religion’ in different ways.
One definition is: ‘a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe.’ Another is ’a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices agreed on by a number of persons or sects,’ while a third defines it as ‘something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.’
Deism qualifies under all these definitions. The third in particular arises out of the derivation of the word itself. ‘Ligare’ is Latin for to tie or to bind; it is the root of the word ligament. ‘Re ligare’ means to rebind or reconnect. A religion is that which binds us again and again i.e. the ideology that gives direction and meaning to our lives.
Bertrand Russell was probably the most famous opponent of Christianity during the twentieth century.…
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Diane Jones
2025년 8월 04일
The beauty of being a deist is the freedom to worship without having to be brain dead....
hi
Always suspected since my age of reason & questioned everything.
Validated after many seasons of questioning, observations & then realized there was always ONE common answer, one common denominator to all my questions & observations. Only then did I become "comfortable" in my own skin. Acceptance w/o effort & w/o laboring, simple & uncomplicated. Navigation of the path before me has always been controlled by me knowing life does get in the way sometimes but the adjustment of the sails is my obligation to me & mine, step by step & one day @ a time.
Pragmatism, reason, determination, execution thereof & perseverance.
Live & let live.
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I understand that I am tardy to the conversation and these questions may not spcifically apply. Even so, I would be interested in hearing more about this distinction between a religious-revelatory formed altruism and a naturally or instinctually formed altruism. Perhaps I could get a link for additional reading, as I am interested in hearing this parsed out. Thank you. (1) Is desiring or seeking or knowing you'll ultimately receive a reward for your charity, good deeds, or prayers for others truly altruism?
(2) Living on a farm, I see "self"-sacrificial behavior in animals; regularly mother's put their offspring's needs above their own for a continued survival (health & safety); males intentionally endanger themselves against very frightening wild attackers, willing to sacrifice their lives for the herd. Granted, I also see the brutal reality of survival-competition as well in these creatures, along with plenty of selfishness and seeming unconcern. Yet...
[A] Could we say that these animals have the attribute of altruism by instinct based on their "self"-sacrifices?
[B] And could we ask: Are these creatures seeking a reward beyond survival? Or would these creatures have to be told about an additional reward system (beyond a simple survival payout) before they would even consider a secondary reward system beyond natural order?
[C] And perhaps: If altruism can be seen in creatures of the natural order, (demonstrating its actuality among us), couldn't creatures of a higher order of consciousness - unto advanced spatial awareness and reasoning capabilities, along with the ability for abstract reasoning - be capable of the same such altruistic actions without additional religiously oriented revelations?
These are just questions I have in trying to gain a better understanding. I'm kind of new to this. Any suggestions for further exploration?